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[Schefter] Sources: The Cleveland Browns are hiring Nick Mansour as head coach and general manager. Mansour, 28, is a football content creator who has never played or coached at any level.News

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u/PylonCamGuyChargers20.8k points7mo

THE BROWNS HIRED A GUY WHO MAKES VIDEOS

u/Bolts_In_The_VoidChargers3.4k points7mo

not a burner, not a parody account, the actual guy

u/SkolNorseHorseVikings890 points7mo

i checked twice

u/LionsInMyLifetimeLions2.1k points7mo

sixty thousand subscribers 😭

u/panther_pit_of_despairPanthers402 points7mo

my high school marching band had a bigger mailing list than that

u/BandKidBrandon88 points7mo

he was in one of those too so tread lightly in here

u/RunItBackRavensRavens14.2k points7mo

Schefter typed that last sentence and hit post

u/wireserviceenjoyerRaiders5.6k points7mo

no adjective on it either

u/TitanUpTuesdayTitans1.4k points7mo

that is the whole ballgame

u/AlwaysBeenAJetsFanJets611 points7mo

twenty years of transactions and he has not written a meaner true sentence in any of them

u/RapSheetReader214 points7mo

it isnt mean, it is the single most relevant fact about the man, which is why it lands like that

u/quietcarcommute34 points7mo

yeah and the ones screenshotting it do not know who he is either

u/CheeseCurdsAndCryingPackers11.9k points7mo

imagine your HCs last job was uploading

u/DolphinsDeepDiveDolphins2.9k points7mo

he uploaded on schedule which is more than our coordinator managed

u/BroncosByCommitteeBroncos780 points7mo

guys resume is a channel

u/HoustonWeHaveAQBTexans96 points7mo

and it is under his own name with no logo on it, which somehow makes it worse

u/ThisThreadIsHistorySeahawks9.4k points7mo

check the top of all time tomorrow

u/ModWatchAltNFL2.2k points7mo

forty thousand in five hours. nothing in here has ever moved like this

u/PatriotWayOutPatriots611 points7mo

the Brady one took two days to do half of it

u/CardinalSinner_Cardinals143 points7mo

we are all going to remember where we were for a hiring, which is an insane sentence to type out

u/SaintsRowSevenSaints88 points7mo

four lads I work with who could not name a team got there before me

u/BengalsInJanuaryBengals8.1k points7mo

MY MOM SENT ME THIS

u/JungleNoiseAgainBengals1.9k points7mo

mine too lmao and she does not know we have a team

u/BuffaloWingSauce_Bills340 points7mo

my sister works in publishing and she had it at four minutes past

u/DraftDayWasRealCowboys6.4k points7mo

Sonny Weaver Jr would like a word

u/KevinCostnerFan88Browns1.7k points7mo

that movie made us look like a functioning business and we are still angry about it

u/RapCameoWatchDolphins240 points7mo

Rapoport is in that movie seven times and he brings it up unprompted every April

u/SteelCurtainCallSteelers5.2k points7mo

Cleveland

u/AlleghenyAnnoyanceSteelers1.2k points7mo

no notes

u/BereaBasementBrowns990 points7mo

we know. we have been here for every year of it. welcome to what it is like in here

u/GMForADayGiants3.1k points7mo

went in for an internship left with the org

u/JagOffAndOnJaguars780 points7mo

the interview ran long lmao. it ran so long they handed him the team

u/TwoWeeksNoticeGuyColts11 points7mo

I got asked to stay an extra ten minutes once and spent the drive home certain I was fired

u/RaidersUntilIDieRaiders4.4k points7mo

every owner in this league read that sentence today and had a thought they will never say out loud

u/BearsWereRobbedBears940 points7mo

the thought is how cheap is this

u/FalconsFourthQuarterFalcons2.8k points7mo

twenty eight

u/OldHeadOnHereCommanders460 points7mo

my HC could get carded

u/GangGreenGriefJets11 points7mo

he was in high school when you drafted Manziel

u/RamsHornsUpRams1.9k points7mo

so who calls the plays

u/BereaSpreadsheet470 points7mo

him. that is the part nobody in here has processed yet

u/NinerEmpireCA49ers118 points7mo

coach, general manager, and he is calling it himself. pick a lane my guy

u/CLE_burner_01283.9k points7mo

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u/MileHighAndDryBroncos176 points7mo

that one was about his name and it was up for eleven minutes

u/scrolling_at_work_Panthers6 points7mo

every big thread has four of those and they all get to four thousand before a mod wakes up

u/KCMOandTiredChiefs176 points7mo

unrelated but my flight out of Hopkins has now moved four times and I am watching all of this from gate C19

u/DetroitDelayedLions96 points7mo

C19 is where they keep the one outlet that works

u/ConcourseDwellerChiefsChiefs10 points7mo

it works if you stand

u/CowboysCapHellCowboysTitans1.1k points7mo

The Greysons graded his old boards against what those players became before anybody ever called him. That is on the record and this entire thread is skipping past it.

u/tape_grinder_260 points7mo

because that part is boring and the joke is not

u/EuclidExpatBrowns214 points7mo

I am not defending this. I am also not going to sit here and pretend the last six were better qualified and it went fine

u/DawgPoundDeliveryBrowns640 points7mo

eleven head coaches. this is the first one I have had to explain to my wife with a laptop open in front of me

u/ColtsCapWatcherColtsColts143 points7mo

the general manager half is the frightening half and this thread is only doing the coach half

u/BillsMafiaTableBills41 points7mo

are the old boards searchable, I want to see what he had on Josh in 2018

u/MansourTapesBrowns11 points7mo

all of it is still up, he scrubbed nothing, somebody is already making the compilation of the bad ones

u/RedZoneRegular_Chiefs9 points7mo

lmao this is so true

u/WatsonContractWatchTexans11 points7mo

serious question, what does any of this mean for Watson. that contract is not going anywhere and now a man who has said nothing about it owns the decision

Edit: ok

u/capsheet_curiousColts8 points7mo

nothing happens. it is fully guaranteed, nobody trades for it, he is on that roster in September

u/SchwesingerStanBrowns10 points7mo

aged like a peach in a hot car

u/CombineTruther49ers10 points7mo

the thumbnails on that channel are better than anything my franchise has produced in nine years and I am only half joking about that

u/GraphicsNerdNFLDolphins9 points7mo

the interactive draft guides are the part that got him this job and everybody in here is doing subscriber jokes instead

u/tape_grinder_6 points7mo

somebody in that room opened one of those and understood immediately what it meant about how his head works

u/HowManySubsJets9 points7mo

how many subscribers do I need to get a job

u/BroncoCountryPopBroncos7 points7mo

sixty thousand apparently

u/eleven_subsCommanders9 points7mo

I have eleven

u/PedanticInPhillyEagles19 points7mo

it is Mansour. I have counted four spellings in this thread and two of them were in the same comment

u/JungleCampReportBengals4 points7mo

Monsour is going to get eaten alive in a division with Tomlin and Harbaugh in it

u/PedanticInPhillyEagles11 points7mo

you did it in a reply to the comment about doing it

u/MarchingBandDadVikings8 points7mo

the band thing is real by the way. trombone at Michigan State, and he was on the floor for the Final Four run in 2019

u/SpartyOnSaturdayLions11 points7mo

that is the funniest available fact and nobody is using it

u/BandKidBrandon7 points7mo

give it a week

u/StaffInfectionNFLFalcons7 points7mo

who is on this staff

u/BereaSpreadsheet6 points7mo

nobody. there is no staff. he was hired four hours ago and the whole football operation is currently him and a laptop

u/RiseUpAndFallDownFalcons5 points7mo

whoever takes that coordinator job is doing something I could not do

u/YoungestEverWhoRams6 points7mo

is he the youngest ever or is that still McVay

u/SoFiSofaRams11 points7mo

McVay was thirty and had run an offense for three years, which is the entire difference this thread keeps skating past

u/YoungestEverWhoRams6 points7mo

fair enough

u/EmeraldCityEyesSeahawks12 points7mo

somebody in that room said this out loud to four other adults and not one of them stopped it, and I would pay money for the tape of that meeting

u/BaltimoreBornAgainRavens9 points7mo

we hired a guy out of a quality control room once and people laughed at that too. not the same, but it is not nothing

u/mid_atlantic_mehGiants4 points7mo

four hundred comments deep and the funniest one is still the first one

u/nine_route_Commanders1 point7mo

Everybody is doing the YouTube joke and the real question underneath it is whether evaluating players and coaching them are the same skill. Nobody has ever had to answer that, because nobody has ever run the experiment. Cleveland is now running it in public with a real roster.

u/AFCNorthWatcher1 point7mo

Been following this league since Belichick was in Cleveland the first time and I could not point you at another hire with no football job in it anywhere.

I have been trying since three o'clock to work out what I think and I have got nowhere. I do not believe the people who are certain in either direction.

u/Superior_Ave_Browns1 point7mo

we will know in about eleven months and not one minute before that

u/LurkerSinceKaepernickSeahawks11 points7mo

lurked here since the Kaepernick season and made an account for this

u/WhoDatBoutDatSaints8 points7mo

welcome. it gets worse

u/ManchesterAndKCChiefs10 points7mo

Watching from Manchester and I have explained this to six colleagues today. Not one of them believed the last sentence of it and I had to show them the post twice.

u/DublinDolphinDolphins7 points7mo

Same in Dublin. My da asked whether it was one of those prank items they put on at the end of the news

u/SeniorBowlSickoBills9 points7mo

completely off topic but is the Senior Bowl worth doing in person or is it a television event

u/MobileBayMattTitans8 points7mo

go once. the practices are the whole thing and the game itself is nothing

u/SeniorBowlSickoBills4 points7mo

appreciate it

u/scout_school_dropoutPanthers2 points7mo

book early, the hotels in Mobile go fast and they are not cheap that week

u/frontpage_visitor9 points7mo

Came from the front page and understand none of this, but that is one of the best sentences I have read this year and I am not being sarcastic

u/NashvilleNumberOneTitans6 points7mo

you have accidentally understood the whole thing

u/BrownsTilIDie_Browns8 points7mo

fifth time in my adult life I have been told the new plan is the real plan

u/MuniLotMorningBrowns6 points7mo

at this point I would take a hire nobody in the country had an opinion about, which is the one thing we did not get

u/CuyahogaCapSheetBrowns5 points7mo

we have had four general managers and two of them also picked the coach, so this is not even the strangest structure we have run

u/Foxboro_FogPatriots7 points7mo

downvote me but I like it

u/HorseshoeHangoverColts5 points7mo

nobody is downvoting you, look at your own number

u/Foxboro_FogPatriots5 points7mo

u/SearchCommitteeSteveJaguars6 points7mo

does anybody have the list of who they interviewed before this

u/pillar_of_salt_88Commanders5 points7mo

Monken, Shula and Scheelhaase, all real interviews with a real search firm. They ran the whole normal process and then did this at the end of it, which is somehow the strangest part

u/BigRedFlagshipCardinals3 points7mo

Sheelhase

u/pillar_of_salt_88Commanders4 points7mo

Scheelhaase. neither of us is getting it right on the first go

u/BreerReconstructionGiants5 points7mo

Breer is going to write the hour by hour of that interview and I will be reading it at whatever time on Sunday it goes up

u/Tecmo_Bowl_BoRaiders4 points7mo

For real.

u/PurpleFridayNightRavens3 points7mo

The version of this I keep turning over is that a first time general manager and a first time head coach are the same person, so there is nobody upstairs whose job it is to tell him no about personnel. That is the thing I would be frightened of and nobody is talking about it.

u/FlockAroundFindOutRavensRavens2 points7mo

the family can tell him no. that is the only brake on it

u/BountygateSurvivorSaints3 points7mo

Nah

u/BengalStripesForeverBengals2 points7mo

yep

u/ArrowheadAnxietyChiefs2 points7mo

I keep opening this thread at work and closing it and opening it again and there are somehow four thousand new comments every time I do

u/quiet_sunday_watcherJaguars2 points7mo

Whatever happens I hope somebody films the first time he has to walk into a room of forty year old men who have done this their whole lives and tell them what the plan is. I would watch that and nothing else.

u/BearDownOrDontBears2 points7mo

imagine being Dom Capers reading this

u/OnePrideOneShameLions7 points7mo

Capers is not even on that staff yet, give it a month

u/WideRightForever_Bills1 point7mo

Genuine question from someone who does not follow the draft side of this at all. Was he any good at the thing he was doing before this, or is that also a joke

u/MansourTapesBrowns6 points7mo

that is the uncomfortable part. he was good. the record is public and dated and you can go and check every board he ever put out

u/deadcap_dot_org1 point7mo

Nobody in here has said the word cap once and that roster has the worst sheet in football attached to it. The coaching argument is the fun one and the personnel argument is the one that decides whether any of this works.

u/since_ninetyfour49ers1 point7mo

I have watched every hiring cycle since the mid nineties and I could not tell you one thing about how this ends. Usually by the second day you can see the shape of it. I cannot see the shape of this at all.

u/rules_nerd_777Cardinals1 point7mo

Does the Rooney Rule apply to a general manager search separately or is it one process when one man holds both titles. I have looked it up twice and got two answers.

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r/nfl·Posted by u/alexschubs·7 months ago

[Schefter] The Cleveland Browns are releasing QB Deshaun Watson.News

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u/Fourth_And_Inches_Chargers18.4k points7mo

THE YOUTUBE GUY JUST DID IT

u/skol_and_responseVikings6.1k points7mo

He hasnt even hired a position coach yet 💀

u/BattleRedBlanketTexans2.3k points7mo

whistle still in the fucking packaging

u/keep_pounding_sandPanthers118 points7mo

lmao

u/AboveTheFrayFCNFL126 points7mo

Two days into that job and he has already said more true things out loud than the last three regimes managed across fourteen years.

u/YinzerInExile412Steelers41 points7mo

he also has not won a football game yet so let us all take one breath

u/BearDownOrDontBears3.1k points7mo

117 million dollars for a guy who isnt on the team

u/Two_Sad_FranchisesCowboysColts168 points7mo

They didnt wait until March either. That is every dollar of it landing inside one calendar year

u/PhinsUpPhinsDownDolphins104 points7mo

We ate 182 and nobody called us brave

u/Tecmo_Bowl_BoRaiders21 points7mo

you win that one and nobody is coming to take it off you

u/Foxboro_FogPatriots154 points7mo

unrelated but has anyone else had a hotel put out a waffle iron and then no batter anywhere in the room

u/Chowdah_AdjacentPatriots133 points7mo

that happened to me at a hotel in Erie in February and I still think about it most weeks

u/PatsFanInOhio_Patriots76 points7mo

Erie has done worse

u/gronkowskis_ghostPatriotsPatriots63 points7mo

I once got handed a single waffle by a man who would not explain himself

u/BeliBeliBeli_Patriots18 points7mo

this is the best chain on this entire website

u/BirdsWordsNerdsEagles8.9k points7mo

Mick Nansour

u/LambeauLeapYearPackers1.0k points7mo

Sedeur Shanders

Edit: the quarterback. people in here are somehow reading this as the coach

u/BillsMafiaTableBills118 points7mo

Gillon Dabriel

u/WhoDatBoutDatSaints44 points7mo

Swavis Tritzer

u/BurgundyAndGold_Commanders8 points7mo

Greyt Granson

u/RedSeaRisingAgainCardinals3 points7mo

Bike Mutenberg

u/MileHighAndDryBroncos111 points7mo

Com Dapers

u/BroncoCountryPopBroncos26 points7mo

Com Dapers is seventy five years old and did not sign up for one second of this

u/GangGreenGriefJets9 points7mo

Wait is it Mansour or Mansur, I have seen it both ways today and I do not want to do the bit wrong

u/JalenHurtsMyFeelingsEagles4 points7mo

both

u/HouseholdNameNowTexans7.4k points7mo

what got everybody is that he did not stop at his own team

u/AFCSouthSuffererJaguars2.4k points7mo

THIRTY ONE OTHER BUILDINGS GOT NAMED IN THAT ANSWER

u/park_ave_watcher1.9k points7mo

misogyny, sexual misconduct, domestic violence, tolerated for far too long, and not one franchise's failure. that is a head coach saying it about the league that signs his cheques, on day two

u/NeverWatchAGame880 points7mo

I do not watch this sport and my whole timeline is that paragraph, not the other part

u/TitansRebuildYear12Titans610 points7mo

releasing him is a roster move. the second half is the part with a cost on it

u/LeagueOfficeLurkerCommanders940 points7mo

nobody in New York has said one word all day and that is also an answer

u/TwelfthManDownSeahawks6.2k points7mo

Every other fanbase in this league just found out what their own number is and not one of them is going to post it

u/ArrowheadAnxietyChiefs143 points7mo

mine is a first round bye 😭

u/RaiderNationDentalRaiders176 points7mo

Pittsburgh ran this exact arrangement for a decade with Ben and never once held a press conference about any of it

u/SteelCityShrugSteelers37 points7mo

we handled it internally, meaning nobody handled anything

u/TerribleTowelBoySteelersSteelers96 points7mo

two super bowls though

u/PurpleFridayNightRavens10 points7mo

there it is, took eleven replies but there it finally is

u/WideRightForever_Bills55 points7mo

mine came back embarrassingly low and I did not need to learn that about myself before nine in the morning

u/WireSilenceWatchGiants5.8k points7mo

not one word about the league from either wire account

u/insidersinsidersJets1.4k points7mo

and there will not be one. transaction, cap figure, next tweet

u/ThirdRailAvoiderTitans1.1k points7mo

it is cowardice and I am comfortable calling it that about two men I read every single day

u/BeatWriterBrigadeFalcons380 points7mo

their whole business is being the first phone call from thirty two front offices. you do not get that by typing what he said about them

u/pressbox_pretzel94 points7mo

correct, and it is still cowardice. both of those go in the same sentence

u/BereaBurner20264.7k points7mo

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u/JosephAllenSirBills84 points7mo

whatever that was, I saw it and it was worth every hour of the ban

u/TitanUpOrDontTitans47 points7mo

Rusty Hardin puts down his coffee

u/HorseshoeHangoverColts11 points7mo

it was about the podium and I am not going to be the second person banned in here today

u/BereaBasementBrowns4.0k points7mo

We would have kept him if he was good and every single one of you knows it, so I am not doing a victory lap about any of this

u/OnePrideOneShameLions88 points7mo

respect for typing that where people can see it

u/AlleghenyAnnoyanceSteelers66 points7mo

the 2022 threads on this website are still up and they are fully searchable

u/MuniLotMorningBrowns29 points7mo

I know. I posted in them. I am not going to go and link you the comment

u/quietcarcommute7 points7mo

going to go ahead and not open those

u/RiseUpAndFallDownFalcons6 points7mo

you booed the man for two seasons though, that has to count for something on some ledger somewhere

u/Superior_Ave_Browns2 points7mo

it counts for about four percent of what this city really owes on the whole thing

u/YesterdayWasBiggerRams3.2k points7mo

yesterday broke this website and this one is not even mostly on this website

u/OutOfTheLoopRefugeeBears880 points7mo

out of the loop, my local news at six, and my mothers facebook. it stopped being a sports story about ninety minutes ago

u/SkolNorseHorseVikings190 points7mo

the hiring thread was ours. this one belongs to everybody and it is strange in here

u/RedFridayRegretChiefs706 points7mo

LMFAO HE SAID IT AT THE PODIUM

u/SeaOfRedAndGuiltChiefsChiefs58 points7mo

he said it the way you would read out a weather report

u/PurplePeopleEatingItVikings23 points7mo

no notes, no build up, nothing, he answered it like it was a question about the schedule

u/ProcessNotOutcome-6 points7mo

Nobody was ever charged with anything.

Two separate grand juries were shown all of it and declined, and one of those had eight plaintiffs scheduled to testify. I do not think a football coach is the person who gets to stand at a microphone and settle that.

u/JungleNoiseComplaintBengals74 points7mo

he settled with twenty of them my guy

u/ProcessNotOutcome-19 points7mo

A settlement is not an admission and you know that it is not. I am not defending the man. I am saying somebody twenty eight years old with no legal training rendered a verdict on a Wednesday afternoon and half a country stood up and applauded it.

u/MetLifeMoldJets33 points7mo

a wednesday specifically

u/ProcessNotOutcome-34 points7mo

Downvote away then. This is the exact thing that has gone wrong with this website and I have been on it long enough to watch it happen to somebody new every couple of months.

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u/nearside_lane5 points7mo

he is not entirely wrong, he is just losing

u/DuvalOrBust904Jaguars11 points7mo

SECOND DAY

u/TeaKettleTouchdownJaguars5 points7mo

imagine what this man does on day nine

u/BigBlueWreckingCreweGiants11 points7mo

Sheduar Sanders is the starter by default now and nobody in that building wants to be first to say it

u/Actual_Colts_FanColts10 points7mo

Shedeur

u/BigBlueWreckingCreweGiants4 points7mo

been spelling it wrong for a year and a half

u/CardiacCardinalCardinals3 points7mo

Shaduer

u/NashvilleNumberOneTitans2 points7mo

we are just making sounds at this point

u/BucsAndBucksBuccaneers10 points7mo

sixty thousand subscribers and a firmer spine than every person who voted to approve that contract lmao

u/TealDeckTonyJaguars6 points7mo

his offensive line is still going to be terrible in September

u/[deleted]9 points7mo

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u/DawgPoundDeliveryBrowns6 points7mo

you are the third person to post that and then delete it in the last hour

u/scrolling_at_work_Panthers1 point7mo

what did it say, I got here twenty minutes late and none of the replies make sense

u/SneadSznRams9 points7mo

Mansour has been the head coach of a professional football team for thirty four hours and already has a longer record on this subject than the league office has managed since 2022

u/pillar_of_salt_88Commanders4 points7mo

they called it a club matter and then went back to lunch

u/RavensRunTheAFCRavens8 points7mo

Baker got run out of that city over one bad month and then Haslem handed the next one a quarter of a billion dollars

u/FlockAroundFindOutRavensRavens8 points7mo

Haslam. and before anyone starts, yes, I do it every single time as well

u/SouthBeachSadnessDolphins8 points7mo

Miami ate more than this and not one person wrote a column about our courage

u/LakeErieBrothersBrowns7 points7mo

nobody is writing that column and we both know exactly why

u/RussellMoneyPTSDBroncos7 points7mo

the Russell money was eighty five split across two seasons and all of us thought that was the end of the world

u/NameChangeVeteranCommanders6 points7mo

we changed the entire name of a franchise over something adjacent to this and it took four years of steady pressure. this took a man two days

u/RainCityRegularSeahawks5 points7mo

wait he called the previous owners disgusting too

u/BountygateSurvivorSaints4 points7mo

our guy got hired for being pleasant and yours got hired off a spreadsheet channel and I could not tell you which of those is stranger

u/marginal_utility_fanPackers3 points7mo

The subscriber count is smaller than my old high school. I keep coming back to that number and not the cap number.

u/deadcap_dot_org2 points7mo

The part everybody in here is skipping past is that the money was already gone.

A fully guaranteed deal means it was spent in 2022. What January decided was which season absorbs the acceleration, which is a real decision, but it is not the one this thread thinks it is.

u/NorthStarNihilistVikingsVikings2 points7mo

I do not think people understand how rare it is for anybody in this sport to say a plainly true thing without a lawyer standing three feet behind them, and that includes every one of the ones I like.

u/since_ninetyfour49ers1 point7mo

Been watching this league since 1994 and I have never seen a press conference that looked like that one. Not once, not close. I do not know what to do with it and I am not convinced anybody else does either.

u/ClevelandComplicityBrowns1 point7mo

I do not want to be smug about a single part of this.

We cheered in 2022. I remember which bar I was standing in and I remember what I said out loud, and I am not going to pretend otherwise now that it is finally convenient for me.

u/PeteCarrollSmileSeahawksSeahawks1 point7mo

Serious question for the room. If this team goes four and thirteen does one bit of it matter in a year, or does the same fanbase clapping today spend all of November asking why a man from the internet is calling their plays?

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r/nfl·Posted by u/gridiron_wire·4 months ago

[Rapoport] The Browns are trading up from No. 24 to No. 10 and selecting Texas A&M WR KC ConcepcionNews

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u/BillsMafiaAnnuityBills9.1k points4mo

reached. then paid extra to reach.

u/BroadStreetBoardEagles3.4k points4mo

we took the receiver everybody had ahead of his guy and did not move a single spot to do it

u/CuyahogaCapSheetBrowns610 points4mo

you took him at twenty, that is not passing on anybody

u/board_and_bored1.2k points4mo

gave up a second next year to jump fourteen picks for a guy everybody else had twenty second

u/RedSeaRisingAZCardinals188 points4mo

The chart says 560 points and he settled up in 2027 money.

u/SkolMathematicsVikings74 points4mo

the chart is made up

u/JerrysCapGeometryCowboys33 points4mo

so is the board

u/gang_green_garyJets16 points4mo

two picks, two different complaints, somehow one complaint

u/MotorCityMathLions11 points4mo

nine is a slotting argument. ten is a slotting argument he financed. those are not the same thing

u/quiet_sunday_watcherJaguars9 points4mo

honest question, has anybody in here watched the a&m tape or are we all reading the same four boards back to each other

u/DawgPoundDenialBrowns7 points4mo

watched every snap of him this fall and I am still nervous, that is where I am

u/WhoDatDeadCapSaints5 points4mo

every front office believes it sees something the rest do not, one of them is right every few years

u/HeinzFieldGhostSteelers4 points4mo

cleveland paying a premium to move up is the funniest sentence of the entire weekend

u/AndyReidHawaiianShirtChiefs3 points4mo

in january he was uploading, in april he is trading seconds, what a run for the guy

u/press_snap_pete2 points4mo

he answered the reach question with snap counts off his own charting and half the room still filed it as a reach, which is fair

u/SpaceCityStunnedTexans1 point4mo

Serious note on the value. Twenty four to ten is roughly a second at the going rate, so the price on its own is not insane.

The argument is that you spent it to get ahead of a room that had the player twenty spots lower, which means the only bidder you beat was yourself.

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r/nfl·Posted by u/alexschubs·2 months ago

[Rapoport] The Browns are trading DE Myles Garrett to the Rams for DE Jared Verse, a 2027 first-round pick, a 2028 second-round pick and a 2029 third-round pick.News

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u/BillsBackerBarstoolBills1.9k points2mo

LA JUST GOT MYLES GARRETT FOR A GUY AND SOME PAPER

u/BigRedFlagshipCardinals612 points2mo

some paper is doing an enormous amount of very heavy lifting in that particular sentence and everybody in here knows it

u/SoFiSofaRams176 points2mo

we are not going to apologize for this one and I do not think anybody seriously expected us to

u/FaithfulUntilTheEnd49ers74 points2mo

nobody asked you to

u/RamsHouseTwiceRamsRams16 points2mo

apologizing anyway

u/CuyahogaCapSheetBrowns168 points2mo

Verse is twenty five and was defensive rookie of the year, this is not the robbery everybody in here needs it to be

u/HeinzFieldGhostSteelers96 points2mo

you traded a two time defensive player of the year off a twenty three sack season

u/CuyahogaCapSheetBrowns21 points2mo

I am aware of what we traded

u/FloridaManGangGreenJets154 points2mo

he asked out though didnt he, everybody in this thread is dancing around saying it

u/pressbox_pretzel144 points2mo

nobody has said that on the record and the coach is taking every bit of it publicly, which is either loyalty or extremely good management

u/BengalStripesForeverBengals26 points2mo

a decade of that would break anybody

u/ChargersInAStadiumChargers133 points2mo

nine seasons, zero playoff wins, and now he plays football in January. good for him honestly

u/HarbaughEyebrowRavens62 points2mo

we would have taken him in a second

u/quiet_sunday_watcherJaguars11 points2mo

he earned it and I hope he gets a ring somewhere warm and boring

u/VikingsInFebruaryVikings148 points2mo

The kid from the draft channel just moved Myles Garrett and I am starting to think he does not care what a single one of us believes

u/same_bit_since_janSeahawks40 points2mo

that has been the entire bit since January

u/MotorCityMathLions92 points2mo

A 2027 first from the Rams is going to be pick thirty one and everybody typing in this thread knows that

u/BereaSpreadsheet51 points2mo

that is the bet. good team now, cheap picks later, and picks are the only part of a roster that compounds

u/JerrysCapGeometryCowboys10 points2mo

compounding is a frightening word around a fanbase that has been conscious since 1999

u/bearish_on_futuresGiants4 points2mo

it could also be pick four, contenders come apart constantly

u/SpaceCityStunnedTexans9 points2mo

so the defensive line is now one very good young player and a great deal of hope

u/MalikCollinsWatch9 points2mo

Collins is on PUP and Hall is banged up, it is worse than that

u/JuneFirstAppreciatorFalcons8 points2mo

June 1 exists for exactly this and it still catches me out every single year

u/EdgeRusherTruther-9 points2mo

This is a terrible trade and everyone calling it clever is doing coach apologetics.

You do not move the best defensive player alive for a package. He is the best pure pass rusher I have watched since Watt and they came back with a rookie of the year and a stack of maybes.

u/CheeseheadCalculusPackers7 points2mo

he is thirty and the team wins four games

u/EdgeRusherTruther3 points2mo

Nobody on this website can handle a real opinion.

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u/SneadsBurnerAccountCommanders7 points2mo

Snead will trade that 2029 third before the pick physically exists

u/long_game_larryCardinals6 points2mo

Will the fanbase ever find out whether he asked for it? Feels like the sort of thing that turns up in somebody's book in about six years.

u/AndyReidHawaiianShirtChiefs5 points2mo

good luck to him, he is going to be extremely annoying twice a year now

u/WhoDatDeadCapSaints5 points2mo

we did exactly this to an entire roster and it was wonderful for two seasons and then it was not

u/TitansRebuildYear12Titans4 points2mo

enjoy the picks, they are the best part of any trade right up until they arrive

u/PantherPitDwellerPanthers3 points2mo

Watching a rebuild move this fast is uncomfortable and I do not think most people in here have ever seen one done on purpose.

u/draft_capital_dad2 points2mo

Serious answer, the 2028 second is the pick that matters.

A first from a contender is a late first. A second from a contender in year three of a window is a real asset if you think the window closes, and it always closes.

u/NineYearsThankYouBrowns2 points2mo

Nine years. Thank you. I mean that.

u/VerseIsTheValueBroncos1 point2mo

Been following this stuff a long time and the piece nobody mentions is that Verse is on a rookie deal through 2028 with a fifth year option attached, which is where most of the actual value in this trade sits, and it is not the picks.

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r/nfl·Posted by u/berea_beat·7 hours ago

[Cabot] Browns open camp with DT Maliek Collins on the active/PUP list; Mike Hall Jr. and Mason Graham both limitedNews

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u/camp_body_watch41 points6h

their defensive line was already the thinnest part of that roster and now this

u/SchwesingerStanBrowns18 points5h

Verse is going to be double teamed on every single snap in September and I have made my peace with it

u/JungleCampReportBengals12 points5h

PUP in July means nothing, PUP in August starts to mean something

u/VerseWatchLARams6 points4h

hows the coach with the channel doing over there

u/BrownsTilIDie_Browns3 points3h

undefeated

u/rules_nerd_777Cardinals1 point2h

Anyone know whether active PUP affects the roster cut math at all, or is it just a camp designation that goes away on its own. I can never keep the two straight.

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