ESPN · Lawrence, Indiana · Monday, September 21, 2026 · 12:00–3:00 p.m. ET
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Pat McAfee
Host
A.J. Hawk
Co-Host
Darius Butler
Analyst
Boston Connor
The Toxic Table
Tone Digz
The Toxic Table
Ty Schmit
Producer
Three hours. Hours one and two are printed off the ESPN simulcast with the censor left in
where the censor was. Hour three is ESPN+ and YouTube and the delay comes off it. Forty
minutes of hour two was a Big Ten segment and is not here.
12:00 p.m. · Cold open at the Toxic Table
McAfeeOkay. Fifty-four. Fifty-four to fourteen, on the road, in
Tampa, getting four and a half, so Ty, put both of those up on the screen together, because
I have looked at them side by side nine times this morning, nine times, and honestly it still has
not gone in.
Ty SchmitThey got four and a half.
McAfeeTHEY GOT FOUR AND A HALF AND THEY WON BY FORTY. Okay?
That is a — well, that’s a forty-four and a half point swing on a f***in’ Sunday
afternoon. Eighty-nine points in two weeks, man. And look, I know, I know, everybody’s going to tell
me who they played and yeah, we’ll get to who they played, but forty-four point five a game is
first in the National Football League, right, that is ahead of Philadelphia, who put forty-four on
Tennessee yesterday. Nobody in this sport scores more than the Cleveland Browns.
HawkYeah, that’s true.
McAfeeNo, say it back to me.
HawkNobody scores more than the Cleveland Browns.
McAfeeIt sounds WORSE when you say it! It sounds like a lie.
Okay — okay, so here’s the one I’ve been sitting on since about eight o’clock
last night and, you know have not been able to put down. Tampa Bay did not enter the red zone all
day. Not one time, I mean not once, four hours in their own building in front of their own people, and the
Cleveland Browns defense never once had to line up inside the twenty.
Boston ConnorTwenty-two.
McAfeeWhat?
Boston ConnorFurthest they got was the twenty-two.
McAfeeTHE TWENTY-TWO! That’s two yards, they missed
the red zone by two yards, one time, and that was the closest they came all afternoon. And then
— and then, Ty, back me up on this, because people are going to think I’m making it up
— they went oh for eleven on third down.
Ty SchmitEleven times. None.
McAfeeOh for eleven. And then, yeah, two for two on fourth down.
[pause]
McAfeeThey cannot convert a third down and they are
UNDEFEATED ON FOURTH DOWN. Okay, what is that, though? Somebody tell me, because I have no idea,
like what, like what do you call a group of grown men who can only do it when there is no
tomorrow? I want a mathematician in this room by hour two, seriously.
ButlerThe eleven third downs were all six or longer.
McAfeeSEE. See, and that’s the boring answer, and
it’s right, and I hate it, I hate when he does that to me. Hey. Boston Connor, give me the other
one.
Boston ConnorThey blocked an extra point.
McAfeeTHEY BLOCKED AN EXTRA POINT. [laughing] Fifty-four
points get scored on you and you stop one of them! ONE! And somewhere in Tampa right now there is a
man in a dark room cutting that up, putting music underneath it, and honestly, God bless him,
that’s the tape, that’s what he got out of Sunday.
Tone DigzThey fire the cannons seven times for a touchdown.
McAfeeSeven for a touchdown, three for a field goal, yeah,
I know the ship, man, I’ve punted in front of the ship.
Tone DigzAnd there’s a parrot on the back of it.
Boston ConnorIt’s not a real parrot, man.
Tone DigzI’ve seen it move.
Boston ConnorIt moves because there’s a guy with a remote
control. It’s animatronic.
Tone DigzOkay, so why would you build a machine bird when a
bird is available?
Boston ConnorBecause it’s outside all year.
Tone DigzSo is a bird.
Boston ConnorTone.
Tone DigzBirds live outside, Connor. That’s where they
are.
ButlerI’ve been in that stadium nine times and I’ve never
once looked at the boat.
McAfeeAll right. Darius. Do the thing you do. Bring the room
down.
ButlerJacksonville’s oh and two, Tampa’s oh and two.
Tampa has let in eighty-six already and nobody in football has let in more, and their head coach is
calling that defense himself, because he never hired anybody to do it, which isn’t a shot at
him, you know, that’s just the arrangement. Somebody was going to put forty on that at some
point and it turned out to be Cleveland.
McAfeeAnd I do not care.
ButlerI know you don’t.
McAfeeI do not care even a LITTLE bit, Darius. Everything you
just said is true, all of it, and I would like it stricken. This man’s entire coaching career is
two Sundays long, two, and both of them are forty-burgers on the road in a hundred degrees, and
there’s a whole country full of people who do this for a living, who’ve done it for thirty
years, going out of their minds about it today, and I am having the time of my life.
Forty-nine
12:26 p.m. · The linebacker
McAfeeI’m not doing the quarterback today. I’m not
doing it. Look, I’ve seen what’s happening out there and I’m not putting my hand in it.
Twenty-six of thirty-five, three twenty-eight, two touchdowns, and then he goes and runs one in
himself from fifteen. First in the league in completion percentage, first in passer rating, first in
yards an attempt, and yeah, that’s all I’m saying about it.
Boston ConnorYou said all of it.
McAfeeI said the numbers, man. Numbers aren’t a take.
Right. So, number forty-nine, twenty-three years old, green dot on the helmet, which means at
twenty-three he’s the one running that defense out there on the grass. Eleven tackles, four of
them behind the line, and a sack, and then two interceptions, and then four balls knocked down, in
ONE afternoon. Ty. How do you say it.
Ty SchmitSchwesinger.
McAfeeSchwezinger.
Ty SchmitSchwesinger.
McAfeeThat’s what I said.
Ty SchmitYou’re putting a Z in it.
McAfeeTHERE IS A Z IN IT.
Ty SchmitThere’s no Z in it.
McAfeeOkay, put it on the screen. Put it up right now — look,
that is not a name. That is a hand going down a keyboard. So I’m calling him forty-nine.
He’s forty-nine to me for the rest of his career, forty-nine, and his mother can write in.
ButlerNobody in the league has knocked down more balls than
him. Six, through two games.
McAfeeHold on. Say that slower.
ButlerHe’s a linebacker and he’s ahead of every corner
in football.
McAfeeWhoever votes on defensive player of the week — and
look, I’ve never met one of you, I assume you’re in a room somewhere with a kettle —
do it today. Don’t make the kid wait till Wednesday. And then give him the month, and then
yeah, I want a serious conversation about the YEAR, in September, when it’s obviously stupid,
and I know it’s stupid, I’d like to have it anyway.
HawkHe’s in year two.
McAfeeHE’S IN YEAR TWO!
McAfeeRight. DraftKings. Our room is named after them, right, we sit
inside the ad every day of our lives. So Ty gives me a card this morning, and Ty, Ty has been
going around telling people that I don’t read the card.
Ty SchmitI said that to one person.
McAfeeSo today I’m reading the card. Yeah. All of it.
The card
“New customers only. Twenty-one and over, or nineteen where applicable. Physically located
in Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana,
Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, Ohio…”
Ty SchmitPat.
McAfeeI AM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STATES, TY. …
Pennsylvania, Vermont, Virginia, Wyoming, void where prohibited, see terms at the website. And there
you go. That is the single most compliant thirty seconds in the history of this network and nobody,
nobody can come at me until January.
Boston ConnorMassachusetts.
McAfeeI said Massachusetts.
Boston ConnorI know. I’m just saying it.
HawkYou skipped Ohio.
McAfee…I did not skip Ohio.
HawkNew York, North Carolina, Oregon.
[four seconds]
McAfeeOHIO. Ohio is in there, Ty, Ohio’s on the card. If
you are in the state of Ohio you are ELIGIBLE, and today of all days. Gambling problem, look, the
number’s at the bottom of your screen, call it, it’s a real number with real people on
it.
The first quarter
12:52 p.m. · The first quarter
McAfeeEverybody’s doing fifty-four, right, everybody in
America is doing fifty-four and nobody’s doing the first quarter, and the first quarter was a
f***in’ crime scene. Darnell Savage had a hundred and fifty-odd yards thrown over the top of
him before the first quarter was out, a hundred and fifty, in fifteen minutes of football, and
then a thirty-six yard touchdown to McMillan, gone, and then Cleveland punts and it pins them on their own
thirteen, and then on the first snap Godwin goes eighty-seven.
Tone DigzFirst play.
McAfeeFIRST PLAY! You pin a football team on their own
thirteen, which is, you know, that is the best thing that happens to a defense all day, that’s
the whole reason you punt the football, and eleven seconds later it’s a touchdown. Fourteen to
seven, eight minutes in, in that heat. And look, if you’re from Cleveland, if you grew up on
it, you have obviously seen that afternoon nine hundred times and you already know what comes
next.
HawkThey didn’t take him out.
McAfeeTHEY DID NOT TAKE HIM OUT. Nick. Nick, run both of
them, yeah, back to back, and then just keep going.
Clip roll · hour one the same two plays, six times
The eighty-seven. Full speed, sound up
The fourth-quarter interception. Full speed
The two of them cut together with nothing in between
The eighty-seven, quarter speed, end zone camera, where you can see him turn
The interception, quarter speed, safety fourteen yards off, nobody in man
Both of them again, because Butler asked
Second quarter, after the change · CBS
ButlerHey. Can I have this one.
McAfeeYeah, take it.
ButlerI got taken out in the second quarter of a game one
time. I’m not going to say where. You stand on that sideline two and a half hours in front of
sixty thousand people and every one of them knows exactly what it means, and your people in the
stands know it too. And then you get on the plane and the seat next to you stays empty the whole
flight, and nobody’s being cruel about it, that’s just what happens.
McAfeeYeah.
ButlerSo that man’s out on the field in the fourth quarter
with the football in his hands. That’s it for me. I don’t know anything about their head
coach and I’m not going to sit here and act like I do. But somebody decided that at about nine
minutes to go in the first.
HawkThe coverage change is a coordinator. That’s
Rutenberg, that’s the DB coach, that’s a headset conversation that takes eleven seconds.
ButlerThe coverage change is a coordinator. Leaving him on the
field isn’t.
HawkIt might be.
ButlerIt might be.
McAfeeAnd nobody watching a television in Indiana has any way
of knowing which one it was, none of us do, and that, right there, is why I’ve been in a
f***in’ mood since yesterday.
J.J. WattHour two · 1:34 p.m.
McAfeeOkay. J.J. Watt is here and we’ve got him a while. J.J. Go
wherever you want.
WattCan I do the one nobody in America is doing today? So, Vita Vea got six behind the line of scrimmage. Six. In a game his team lost by forty. And I
know that doesn’t look like anything written down, you know, it just looks like a number, so
— I had six for loss in a whole season one time and I was very proud of that season.
McAfeeSix in a year.
WattAnd they were putting three on him. Center and both
guards, you know, three grown men, and he’s still coming out the other side of it, and because
Tampa never had to bring a safety down for him their guys stood on the edges all afternoon, so
Cleveland couldn’t run outside either. Eighty-four yards on twenty-nine handoffs. I mean,
that’s one man. And he did it in a game that was finished at halftime, which I promise you is
the hardest thing there is.
WattOkay, the Cleveland kid, though. I mean, two interceptions
and four for loss from a linebacker in one afternoon is not a normal thing, and the second pick is
the one, because what Mayfield sees before the snap and what’s there after it are two different
pictures, and forty-nine is the guy who moved. And he’s twenty-three, which I don’t
really know what to do with.
McAfeeSo are you in on them? Everybody wants to know who’s in
on them.
WattWell, in on what, though? They’ve played Jacksonville
and Tampa. I don’t know what that is, Pat, I, if I'm honest don’t, and I’m not sitting here
pretending I do. I turned it back on at nine o’clock at night and my wife asked me why and I
didn’t have a reason. So I’m watching it, and yeah, I’ll be watching Sunday.
McAfeeJ.J. WATT, EVERYBODY.
2:11 p.m. · After Watt
McAfeeAJ. You’ve had a face on since about eleven this
morning.
HawkYeah, so, there was a lot of it today. Urban did nine
minutes on a podcast at six a.m. Riddick went long on NFL Live. Two former players on a show I
actually listen to did the whole thing this afternoon.
McAfeeAnd?
HawkAnd they’re right, that’s the thing.
That’s what’s eating me. Every one of them is right, and I sat there this morning watching
men I’ve known for years say a true thing into a camera with a graphic under them and it looked
awful, it looked so bad, and being right doesn’t save you when it looks like that, and I’ve been at it all day trying to fit those two things into one sentence.
McAfeeYeah.
HawkA producer I’ve known ten years called me at eight
last night, wanted me on this morning to do it. And I said no, and then I stood in my kitchen about
forty minutes trying to work out why I said no.
Boston ConnorDid you work it out?
HawkNo.
Tone DigzForty minutes standing up?
HawkI was doing the dishwasher. — And, uh, here’s
the one, here’s the one I’ve never said out loud anywhere. I played for men who’d
been in this business thirty years and were bad at it. Not unlucky, just bad. One of them could not
run a Wednesday, could not do it, could not get a room of grown men through a Wednesday, and every
Wednesday of that season was a shambles, and he had thirty-one years in.
McAfeeSo then what’s —
HawkAnd I still think you have to do the thirty-one years. I
know it doesn’t make you good, I’ve got proof it doesn’t, I played for the proof, and
I still think you have to do it. I can’t get those two in the same room. I’ve been at it
since January and I’m no closer.
McAfeeI don’t think you’re meant to get them in the same
room.
HawkMaybe not. Anyway.
ButlerMy rookie year we had a linebackers coach who kept a
stopwatch on a string around his neck and never once used it.
HawkYeah. Everybody’s had that guy.
The number
2:24 p.m. · The number
Carolina at Cleveland · Sunday 1:00 p.m. ET · FOX
Spread
Cleveland −1.5
Opened
Carolina −3
Total
47.5
Carolina moneyline
+105
McAfeeLook at that thing. Look at it. The Cleveland Browns are
laying points. Somebody say it back to me, because I’ve read it four times and it will not go
in.
Tone DigzCleveland minus one and a half.
McAfeeCLEVELAND MINUS A POINT AND A HALF. And that opened
Sunday morning with Carolina laying three, so that’s four and a half points in a day and a
half, which is, you know, that’s not a market adjusting, that’s a market running for
the door. And Carolina’s good! Carolina went and beat Atlanta up and nobody cares!
McAfeeOh, and Tampa Bay for one second, because there are men in
this country holding a ticket. Right? Tampa opened as the favorite in that division. Plus one
sixty-four, win total eight and a half. And they’re oh and two and their head coach is calling
that defense himself.
ButlerHe never hired one.
McAfeeHE NEVER HIRED ONE! And look, I’m not going to do Todd
like that, Todd Bowles has forgotten more football than — no. No, I am. I’m doing him like
that. Eighty-six points, pal! Hire somebody!
McAfeeAnd I said on this program eight days ago, out of my own
mouth, that I was out on Cleveland both ways, and I want the American people to know I have HONORED
that.
Ty SchmitYou’ve got a futures ticket.
McAfeeTHAT’S FROM AUGUST, TY.
Ty SchmitYou still have it.
McAfeeOkay, so, I have a fourteen-dollar ticket from the second
week of August on the Cleveland Browns to go over six and a half wins and it is currently, and I want
to be clear about this, it is currently the best-performing asset I own. FOURTEEN DOLLARS. I bet
fourteen dollars because I thought it was funny and now it’s the only thing in my life
that’s working.
Hour 3 · ESPN+ / YouTube only
The delay comes off. Printed as spoken.
2:31 p.m. · Hour three
Live chat · hour three · 2:31 p.m.
gulfshore_mike eleven third downs. none. BUCCANEVER
DAWGPOUND1987 FORTY NINE
hannah r. my mom asked me who nick mansour is and i could not do it. i tried for ten minutes
corndog_havoc SCHWESINGER. one S. ONE.
PMS Nick he is saying it wrong on purpose now
gulfshore_mike BUCCANEVER
jvfootball did anyone else look at the parrot after that
bortles_apologist two 0-2 teams. i’m sorry
corndog_havoc ONE S
McAfeeOkay, delay’s off. Around the league quickly and
then one more thing. So, Seattle is oh and two. Seattle played in the Super Bowl in February and just
lost twenty-two to seventeen in Arizona, which is, I mean, that’s a score from a different
sport.
Tone DigzBaseball.
McAfeeYeah, that’s not baseball either, Tone. Detroit went into
the new building in Buffalo Thursday night and won twenty-one to eighteen, and everybody, us
included, I mean, spent two days on the roof and about nine minutes on the Lions. Chargers put
thirty-seven on the Raiders. The Raiders are horseshit, two weeks running.
Boston ConnorPittsburgh.
McAfeeThirty to three, which is the same score they took in
week one, the other way round, eight days later, in New England, thirty and three both times, and New England won in Seattle the week before that! Nobody can rank that division!
HawkAnd they’re in Cleveland Thursday week.
McAfeePittsburgh’s in Cleveland Thursday week, right, primetime,
eleven days from now, and Denzel Ward walks back into that stadium in the wrong colors. That is
going to be an evening.
McAfeeOkay. Last thing. And look, I did not watch a Browns
press conference on a Sunday night, I’m not a lunatic, Ty printed it out. So Cabot asks him
where the game ball went, because he came off the field without it again.
Ty SchmitHe gave it to Savage.
McAfeeHe gave it to Savage. I mean, he gave it to the guy who got
taken apart in the first quarter in front of everybody. Gave him the football.
ButlerWhat’d Savage say?
McAfeeNothing. He just, uh, put it in his bag. It says here he looked at it
like he’d been handed somebody else’s and kept walking.
Butler…Yeah.
McAfeeAnd I don’t know. I don’t know if
that’s the best thing I’ve ever heard or a twenty-eight-year-old doing a bit, nobody
knows, nobody in this country knows, and that’s the whole — Ty. We’re going to
Cleveland, Thursday week, I’m deciding it live on the air.
Ty SchmitYeah, we’re not.
McAfeeNo, we are going to Cleveland.
Ty SchmitWell, there’s nothing booked. No room, no trucks, no
crew.
McAfeeI have just told a very large number of people
we’re going, so now it’s booked. All right, that’s our show. Tomorrow we’ve got
two guests and one of them I’m allowed to say and I’ve forgotten which. AJ, get us
out.
HawkYeah. Cleveland’s home Sunday for Carolina, one
o’clock, and Pittsburgh’s in there Thursday after that. I said a lot of things in August
and most of them still look right to me and I don’t know what I’m watching, I’m just
watching it. Thanks everybody, be good to each—
Boston ConnorShow him the picture.
HawkNo.
McAfeeWhat picture.
HawkIt’s nothing.
Boston ConnorHe took a picture of his television.
McAfee…He what?
HawkI paused it and I took a picture of it.
McAfeeOF WHAT?
HawkThird and seven in the third quarter. Safety’s
fourteen yards off, corner’s inside him, and I hadn’t seen them line up like that all day. I
wanted to look at it later.
McAfeeYOU TOOK A PICTURE OF A TELEVISION.
HawkYeah.
McAfeeHow many.
HawkFour.
McAfeeFOUR PICTURES OF A TELEVISION.
HawkWell, two of them are the same play.
Toxic TableOHHHHHHH
HawkI sent one to a guy I played with.
McAfeeWHAT DID HE SAY.
HawkHe said it’s cover two.
McAfeeIS IT COVER TWO?
HawkNo.
NFLFinal at Raymond James: Browns 54, Buccaneers 14 · Sanders 26-35, 328 · Schwesinger 2 INT
NFLCleveland 2–0, first in scoring at 44.5 · Tampa Bay 0–2, 86 allowed, most in league
NFLWeek 3: Panthers at Browns, Sun 1:00 ET, FOX · CLE −1.5 · O/U 47.5